Kids Allowance Pulled at GM and Chrysler

There comes a time when every parent has to pull the weekly allowance to their child. When your child outspends or refuses to change spending habits you just can’t give them advances on their allowance month after month. Junior (aka your child) needs to learn the value of a dollar and seek out work to earn their own money to pay for those hundred and fifty dollar sneakers. Junior needs to know how hard it is to earn the dollars needed to pay for an expensive prom dress or tux. Junior needs to know that mom and dad can’t give them everything simply because they want it.

Even as liberal as I am, I have had thoughts of doubt about the recent bailout of the auto industries in America. The auto industry alone is so intertwined with many other industries in our nation that at times I honestly believe that we should be doing everything we can to save them. Then again, we can’t afford as a nation to continually poor dollars down a bottomless well. GM and Chrysler should have cut expenses and costs to the bone by now since the first Bush Presidential era bailout but they really have not. The United Auto Workers should be more than willing to work with them given the number of union members employed at both corporations but they are waiting for the next bailout as well to drop. Suppliers, distributors, show rooms and the list goes on should be contributing to the savings of these two companies but they are not. This all spells bankruptcy for both GM and Chrysler and maybe that is not a bad thing for them at this point in time.

President Obama spoke today on this very subject and Yahoo News has it covered with the full speech…

In recent months, my Auto Task Force has been reviewing requests by General Motors and Chrysler for additional government assistance as well as plans developed by each of these companies to restructure, modernize, and make themselves more competitive.
Year after year, decade after decade, we have seen problems papered-over and tough choices kicked down the road, even as foreign competitors outpaced us. Well, we have reached the end of that road.

We cannot, we must not, and we will not let our auto industry simply vanish. But we also cannot continue to excuse poor decisions. And we cannot make the survival of our auto industry dependent on an unending flow of tax dollars. These companies -- and this industry -- must ultimately stand on their own, not as wards of the state.

That is why the federal government provided General Motors and Chrysler with emergency loans to prevent their sudden collapse at the end of last year -- only on the condition that they would develop plans to restructure. In keeping with that agreement, each company has submitted a plan to restructure.

But after careful analysis, we have determined that neither goes far enough to warrant the substantial new investments that these companies are requesting. And so today, I am announcing that my administration will offer GM and Chrysler a limited period of time to work with creditors, unions, and other stakeholders to fundamentally restructure in a way that would justify an investment of additional tax dollars; a period during which they must produce plans that would give the American people confidence in their long-term prospects for success.

What we are asking is difficult. It will require hard choices by companies. It will require unions and workers who have already made painful concessions to make even more. It will require creditors to recognise that they cannot hold out for the prospect of endless government bailouts. Only then can we ask American taxpayers who have already put up so much of their hard-earned money to once more invest in a revitalized auto industry. - Yahoo News UK/Ireland

Before you call me a UAW or Detroit automaker hate filled monster hear me out. GM and Chrysler need to grow out of the bankruptcy as better companies just like your child would do so on learning that they have to stand on their own and pay for what they can realistically afford. Something has to give and the truth is that everyone involved with making a profit from GM and Chrysler products has to own up to it and decide if they want to work for and profit from the same company in the next couple of months or twenty years down the road. Everyone involved in these two companies survival needs to knuckle down and offer savings to save paychecks and jobs at all levels of the corporations survival structure. That works from the guy or gal cleaning the toilets to the people supplying steel, Union Workers, health benefit suppliers, guys and gals on the production floor in management, and retired workers. Everyone getting a piece of the GM and Chrysler pie needs to push a slice back. President Obama more or less fired the CEO of GM today because he came to the taxpayer trough. It was Rick Wagoner’s job to save GM. He didn’t act fast enough and he got his just reward. The details don’t matter, he didn’t do his job and his stock holders should have tarred and feathered him over a year ago!

Nobody wins if either company fails.

A very good point was made today by the Governor of Michigan, Jennifer M. Granholm, we can’t support them but they do play a part in our national security as far as having an industrial complex that can convert quickly for full scale military production. I’m thinking she was talking about WWII and the complete military industrial transformation. That isn’t a good selling point to the discussion but it is a point to really think about.

I’ll toss my cost savings into the ring, I bet that I could save GM and Chrysler millions per year each if they changed their supplier standards and let a guy like me quote their wire and cable needs. They won’t, but I could save them a bundle and the product I would supply would all be made in the USA and the same regulatory safe product they use today. The standards and requirements built into wire and cable design for all of the automotive industry adds hundreds of millions to the cost per year when a simple guy like me could supply the same damn product for mega savings without all the extended BS specifications that limit competition. Email me if you are a buyer at GM or Chrysler!

I’d put the email address in this post but I have enough offers from African nation people willing to split millions with me if I just give my banking and personal contact info.

I’m just one guy willing to bid competitively on their business. Who else is out there willing to jump in to save GM and Chrysler some serious cash in the supply chain? Step up boys and girls and be heard here! My company is willing to save GM and Chrysler some money, who else is willing to step up to save American jobs?

Papamoka

Interesting article over at the Gun Toting Liberal on this same topic...

Edsel, Yugo, and GM seek more Bailout Cash

It comes as no surprise that GM is coming to the taxpayer trough again but I would have to say that the executives at GM need to learn how to fish. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge union worker supporter and as liberal as the day is long but this company along with Chrysler have already come to the taxpayers for a bailout and the billions of dollars went through their pockets like water in a spaghetti strainer. It’s only been three freaking months!

Did they slash executive pays across the board by ten, twenty or even thirty percent to save the company some money? Did they do a damn thing to save the company any money as the billions of taxpayer dollars came into the “General” funds account? Besides taking down clocks and changing light bulbs, lowering the thermostat from 72 to 68 degrees, did they do anything? I think you already know that answer.

Over at the Wall Street Journal they have this to say on the second tapping of the well by Detroit’s automakers…

GM Seeks $16.6 Billion More in U.S. Aid

By JOHN D. STOLL, SHARON TERLEP and ALEX P. KELLOGG

General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC told the federal government they need at least $21.6 billion more combined in bailout loans to put them on the road to recovery, and outlined possible scenarios if either auto maker should have to file for bankruptcy protection.

Both GM and Chrysler, in the recovery plans submitted Tuesday to the U.S. Treasury, argue that bankruptcy would be more costly and drawn out than government-funded restructurings.

General Motors Chairman Rick Wagoner speaks at a press conference at the company's world headquarters Feb. 17, 2009, in Detroit, Mich.

GM said it might need as much as $100 billion in financing from the government if it were to go through the traditional bankruptcy process. Rick Wagoner, GM's chairman and chief executive, said the bankruptcy scenarios are "risky" and "costly" and would only be pursued as a last resort.

Chrysler's plan said the company would likely have to file for Chapter 11 protection if it doesn't get additional loans from the government and concessions from unions, creditors and dealers. It said it would need $24 billion in financing if the company were to file for bankruptcy. But company officials said in a conference call that they believe a Chapter 11 filing is "not necessary" for Chrysler's survival.

The submission of the recovery plans was required under terms of the U.S. loans the auto makers received in early January. The plans, however, described only a relatively few major new restructuring steps they plan to take to cut costs and downsize their operations. - Wall Street Journal

With this latest grab for taxpayer cash in three months time comes GM with an announcement to layoff 47,000 people and talks about bankruptcy. Did anyone go over the fine print of the original loans from the government to GM if they filed bankruptcy? Does Uncle Sam and all his siblings (you and I) get screwed legally in a money for nothing deal? If the government demanded shares and the company is found insolvent, does that or does that not make the value of those government held shares at zero, null, nada, kaput?

I don’t know what the answer to this whole mess is other than absolute frustration and disgust. If GM and Chrysler were competing mom and pop stores on the corner of Main and Elm Street and they couldn’t sell the products then simple economics dictate what happens next. If both mom and pop stores were given a loan just three months ago to get through difficult times but both stores wasted the time and money then the doors need to be shuttered. I’m liberal, I’m a moderate, but I am not a fool.

The government should demand the CEO’s and Board of Directors of each companies resignation if any more cash is to follow. Insert Mitt Romney at GM at the helm and Jack Welch at Chrysler. People may not like what Mitt Romney or Jack Welch can do but you have to give them credit for knowing business and knowing how to turn situations around under pressure. The alternative choice is that GM and Chrysler go the way of the Edsel or the Yugo.

I think both sides of the political aisle can agree that management at both of these companies is clueless. Can our economy afford to let them just die off? I don’t think so and thus we have a major political dilemma building and boiling.

Tip to self: Buy stock in junkyards that specialize in GM and Chrysler parts.

Papamoka

Shutdown and Breakdown in Detroit

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Uttt OHHHH! The Big Three automakers are shutting down plants and that is not a good thing. Detroit is closing up shop because cars are not moving off the lots in the dealerships all across America. Trust me, this is not going to be an American made auto manufacturer phenomenon. Chrysler is shutting down all of its plants for thirty days and Ford is looking at similar options. GM is planning major shutdowns at plants as well and the ripple effect is not going to be good for the world economy. Over at Market Watch they have this to say and I have my own opinion on it afterward…

Chrysler to shut assembly lines for at least a month

Rival Ford takes similar steps, extending shutdown times at most plants

By Shawn Langlois, MarketWatch
Last update: 6:57 p.m. EST Dec. 17, 2008

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Chrysler LLC, struggling to keep afloat as it awaits word on a federal lifeline, said Wednesday it will idle all of its 30 plants for at least a month in an effort to bring output closer in line with plunging demand for new cars and trucks.

The privately held carmaker said it will shut its assembly lines at the end of Friday's shift and keep them closed through at least Jan. 19, extending a holiday shutdown that was already put in place. Under the current union contract, idled workers still receive most of their benefits and wages during the production stoppage.

Separately, Ford Motor Co. announced that it will shut down most of its North American assembly plants for an extra week in January, according to the Associated Press.
Automakers typically close their factories for a couple of weeks over the two weeks during holidays and often, as in Ford's case, target specific plants for even longer idle periods to keep a lid on inventory during times of slack demand. Yet Chrysler's move to idle its entire operation for at least a month reflects just how dire the situation is in Detroit.

"This is definitely out of the ordinary," Edmunds.com analyst Jesse Toprak said. "I've never seen this kind of shutdown for this long, and if you read the language Chrysler used in the release, they're leaving the door open for another extension."

Toprak added that the company will probably take a hard look at its December sales results, which he expects to be down 45% from a year ago, and decide whether to keep blue-collar workers from assembly lines even longer. - Market Watch (Link not working?)

It doesn’t matter anymore what side of the issue you stand on when it comes to the bailout for Detroit and its automakers. The Congress has spoken and the auto industry in America was told to go screw itself. That is a double edged sword so to speak.

Granted the UAW contracts will still pay many of the idled workers almost the same pay for a short shutdown but they can’t get paid forever if the companies end up folding. All of the investment capital that the Big Three used as leverage for long term loans was based on the price per share and all of them are in the toilet as far as share price goes. Wall Street can not and will not offer capital to these companies because the collateral in shares is just not there anymore. The Congress and the Republican members made that a reality by not backing the industry simply because they could. Rather than looking at the bigger picture, Republicans in the Congress looked to see who was in their own back yard and all they could see was Toyota, Honda and the list goes on of foreign owned plants here in the United States. Good for them, they covered their own political ass. Or did they?

While those same Republican leaders were looking out the back step they didn’t see their neighbor Joe that drives twenty minutes to a little mom and pop owned machine shop that just makes screws that go to Detroit. Those screws are installed by the thousands every day by Detroit workers in American made cars. All the little screws do is hold one little piece in a pick up or mid size car down so that another piece of the truck or car can be installed over it with those same little screws holding that part down. Those little tiny machined screws have paid all the wages and healthcare benefits for the five or six people running the actual machines that made them for decades. Not to mention mom and pop put a couple of kids through good schools, then good colleges, and then had those kids buy homes in the local area. Those five or six machine operators buy groceries locally, buy homes or renovate existing homes at the local hardware or home improvement center. They pay local and state taxes that pay for schools, roads, police and fire. They spend their hard earned paychecks where they live and other people benefit from their hard earned wages making little tiny screws that ship to Detroit.

Mom and pop have to close up shop for a while because Detroit is shutting down for a spell. Pick an industry and expand the scenario however you like. There is that old saying about a butterfly beating its wings in China and it gives birth to a hurricane thousands of miles away. Bingo!

There was a reason why the government of long ago would never let Chrysler go bankrupt. It reached to far and wide into the capillaries of the American economy. Lee Iacocca rebuilt Chrysler from the ground up because he had the means to do so courtesy of an American government backed loan. He didn’t do it alone and yet they all made it work out in the end. But now it is okay to let ALL THREE automakers fail? This lack of interest by or government is totally on the Republican Party and they are more than welcome to own it. I can literally see the history books thirty years from now on the new generation of Hoover that started the second economic collapse of America and the world.

This is the never ending ripple effect and when the small business manufacturing owners start closing the doors because Detroit is no longer in business then it is in fact a DEPRESSION! Somebody please call your Congressional representative and give them an earful!

Papamoka

Republican Walmart Deal For Detroit

I’m sorry but I am totally not in agreement with Republican’s when it comes to the Big Three Bailout that failed in the Senate today. Apparently, the only concession that Republican’s wanted was that Detroit Auto Workers agree to the same pay as Walmart workers! What concessions did Wall Street and the billions of greed laden bonuses were part of the discussion for $700 Billion by the banking industry? Do you read anything anywhere about pay cuts in the banking or brokerage houses? Yes, there are job cuts but nobody is cutting their pay down to subsistence levels. I’ll tell you what… NOT ONE big bank that will take the bailout money is going to trim pay scales! But if you are a Detroit Auto Worker you are supposed to put on a blue vest and be thankful while Republican’s break your legal union up simply because they can. This would not be the same outcome if Democrat’s fully controlled the Congress. Um, Democrats do control the Senate but apparently the leadership has no backbone to actually lead. If Jim Web of Virginia were Senate President it would have passed with no concessions.

Over at the New York Times they have this one last chance to slap the working class in the face by Republican’s with a screw you attitude towards the middle and lower classes of America. And in doing so they dump all of the problems they have refused to work on to fix on a new Democrat President…

U.A.W. at Center of Dispute Over Bailout
By MICHELINE MAYNARD
Published: December 12, 2008

DETROIT — Opponents of a Congressional bailout for Detroit auto companies and the United Automobile Workers union traded charges Friday over who was responsible for the defeat of legislation that would have provided temporary financing until the automakers restructured.

Senator Bob Corker, a Republican of Tennessee, suggested the fault lay with the U.A.W.’s president, Ron Gettelfinger, whose union declined to agree to allow wage concessions in 2009 as part of a deal.

But at a news conference Friday morning, Mr. Gettelfinger said the union feared that it was “being set up” by Mr. Corker, who he said was asking the union for concessions that were not sought from other participants in the talks.

Snip… Grab A Wrench to throw…

In a statement Thursday night, the union said it was “prepared to agree that any restructuring plan should ensure that the wages and benefits of workers at the domestic automakers should be competitive with those paid by the foreign transplants. But we also recognized that this would take time to work out and implement” using programs like buyouts and early retirement offers to bring in new workers at lower rates.

“Unfortunately, Senate Republicans insisted that this had to be accomplished by an arbitrary deadline,” the statement said. “This arbitrary requirement was not imposed on any other stakeholder groups. Thus, the U.A.W. believed this was a blatant attempt to make workers shoulder the lion’s share of the costs of any restructuring plan.”

In an interview Friday morning on CNBC, Mr. Corker suggested the union, not Republicans, bore the burden for the measure’s failure.

“I offered them a solution,” he said of discussions with union representatives. “Our caucus was 100 percent behind it. Do we own it, or does the U.A.W. own it?” – New York Times

There is more to this story than we are all reading and I think it comes down to the foreign automakers spread out over more states that are using that Congressional power of numbers to protect and defend their own interests. If the Big Three fail, then Toyota, Honda and every other foreign owned auto maker with plants in the United States wins. You will never be able to buy another American made car ever again! But the campaign war chest check cleared for the Congress members that shot this bill down. All of them Republican!

What is the real destructiveness of this loss is to the American worker across many industries. Republican’s have found a way to cripple a union and make them look like the guilty party. Good wages for good jobs are wrong in America for people punching the clock and working forty or sixty hours a week. The wet dream of the people that killed this bill is to have a nation of Walmart workers where your pay sucks, your benefits suck, and your opportunity to move up in life is less than the chance of winning the lottery. A nation of part time workers where the top of the food chain of the company hands out crumbs to the masses and feels good about the people eating cake.

This bills failure to pass just created several million new Democrat voters all over America that used to be Republican. With the possible bankruptcy of the Big Three Automakers comes millions of middle management and business owners that will see their own business forced into bankruptcy. Good paying jobs all across America will be lost because Senator Bob Corker of Tenn deemed it so. Democrat’s in Congress wanted to pass a bill to bailout the Big Three, Bob Corker and his Republican friends in the Congress killed it.

I do have this to say, Harry Reed should resign as Senate President. If he didn’t have the guts to politically deal with the Republican’s in the Senate then he has no clue as to how to do the job. How the hell is this going to pass once Obama is President or for that matter any tough legislation he needs passed for America? Nice knowing you Harry but you need to step down and let a real leader with backbone take over.

Hopefully, Walmart can keep opening up stores all across America to keep up with the number of JOBS Senator Bob Corker just put into the unemployment lines. Here is your smiley sticker, you can’t eat it or pay your mortgage with it but doesn’t it make you feel better? NOT!

Papamoka

UPDATE: MSNBC HAS REPUBLICAN MEMO ON KILLING GM AND THE UAW!

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White Collar Job’s Only Bailout

Yesterday the U.S. Government bailed out another white collar giant in the banking industry. Citi Bank, the largest of banks in the nation received a blank check from Washington without any questions asked. This most recent of bailouts is all okay with the higher than thou Congress simply because the people cashing the blank check all wear white collars. White collar jobs are good, blue collar jobs bad.

The Steel Workers President put it best, it’s okay to bailout someone that takes a shower before work but if you take one after working all day you get thrown out.

Rachel Maddow has this interesting view on this very same subject…

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I think I might have just found the answer to the automotive industry bailout problem. Don’t tell anyone in Washington but GM, Ford, and Chrysler should change their mailing address to Wall Street in New York city. Better yet, they should all start offering brokerage accounts and free toasters with every car purchase. Even better and this would be a slam dunk, change the corporate names to GM Bank, Ford Bank and Chrysler Bank. Then they could get the same blank check as Citi Bank!

Blue collar union jobs bad, white collar big bank jobs good? Makes sense so far in the scheme of things that Washington and our pontificating Congress uses for an excuse not to bailout the big three automakers. While they claim that the big three have put themselves in the position they are all in, how did Wall Street and all the banks robbing the treasury blind get where they are?

Papamoka