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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Hillary Clinton DNC Speech

Many people, mostly women voters, have no gut feeling for Obama and are thinking about tossing their vote to McCain or just voting for someone else. In my own family, my wife was a die hard supporter of Hillary Clinton and just can not vote for Obama simply because she is not the candidate running with him as Vice President. Her gut feeling is that he screwed woman over and she will not vote for him no matter what.

I think she and the many people thinking like her are wrong in casting their vote to McCain if they do not vote for anyone else other than Obama. The result of this disenfranchisement is the same result that Al Gore faced against Bush in 2000 and lost the election because of Ralph Nader who ran a spoiler campaign. If this thought process is so widespread then John McCain will be the next President and you can look at $8.00 per gallon for gas and toss your humanity out the window as he militarily engages every single nut job nation to save the oil industry interest for America. Toss out your health care as it is today and watch your paycheck drop to nothing as the insurance industry writes the laws for another lazy President to dictate that your health insurance cost should rise by hundreds of percentage points simply because the people writing the laws need more money out of your pockets. Banking industries will be once more set free to pillage the land like Attila the Hun attacking the disadvantage again so we could repeat the Keating Savings and Loan scandal. Repeal all of the choice issues when it comes to your body and toss the shredded remains at the feet of your savior John McCain simply because you cast your vote for him or any other candidate other than Barack Obama.

Originally I supported Joe Biden for President just based on his foreign relations expertise that is unmatched by any other person in all of our nations government services. Politicians anyway. I switched to Obama because of his message and insistence on change and the fact that Hillary Clinton was going negative during her primary campaign. They both have the same positions on almost every single issue which is why there was such a tough primary process.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama had such a hard fight in the Democratic Party primary election only because they are both so close on all of the issues. Both Hillary and Barack are for a national health plan, McCain is not, both are for getting out of Iraq and bringing our troops home, McCain would be happy to be there 100 years, both are for rebuilding America, McCain wants to sell out to special interest and big oil, both Clinton and Obama are very pro women’s rights and that is the final thought. John McCain would toss woman’s rights and advancement back to the 1960’s with his selection of extreme right wing Supreme Court Justices. John McCain is not even comparable to Hillary Clinton on any issue. His position is that woman should shut the hell up, let men dominate them, and should just be seen and not heard. Those words were typed by a father of five daughters and their future is very important to me! I do not want my five daughters living their lives as subservient and not worthy, this is America and not Saudi Arabia. My daughters are being raised in America and they too should have every opportunity to change the world they live in. John McCain does not care about the other half of the population that just happens to be female.

Hillary Clinton inspired over 18 million people to vote for her in the primary. Her fight and battle for the Presidential nomination of her political party was honorable and historical. She alone proved that woman are not just equal in politics but can in fact win enough votes to move the woman’s rights issues forward not just one step but hundreds of steps.

In Hillary Clinton’s DNC Convention speech in Denver she threw her heart and soul behind Obama for President but not for political reason but because she too believes in change. Change that she believes that only Obama can bring to America. With her help he just might be able to move our nation forward with the change that is needed and in the direction back to our nations people. What if Hillary Rodham Clinton made the arguement that I am trying to impress on her lost supporters? Would her own words be enough to change their minds? Over at MSNBC they have this video of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s speech at the DNC in Denver…

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Hillary Clinton is a driving force in this election and the wisdom she recited from Harriet Tubman on keep it going, and keep running is what America needed to hear. Our children and their future is in the hands of the people backing Hillary Clinton. She will be backing Obama simply because they have the same thoughts on many issues. Unity in the Democratic Party has begun and the message from Hillary Clinton tonight was all about those of us less fortunate, struggling through life, and working hard to better our lives and our children’s future. In Hillary Clinton’s words, “No way, no how, no McCain!” I have to agree with the Senator from New York on that thought. Please don't toss away your vote and thus toss a vote to McCain for President. Change is coming and it isn't found in the John McCain for President message.

Side Bar: Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman of MSNBC obviously have some personal and professional arguments and that was very obvious as Chris Matthews called Keith Olberman on the carpet several times during the coverage of the nights events. Matthews looked like a jerk in doing so each and every single time he got pissed off at Keith Olberman. Then I was wondering if the Pat Buchanan and Rachel Maddow spats and aggressive arguments was staged or real life thoughts. Knowing Rachel Maddow, it was real life anger.

Papamoka

Cross posted at Bring It On!

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6 Comments:

Blogger Therapy Cat said...

Great observations. I don't know how many of her disappointed supporters will decide to step up for their country and the progressive movement, but I am proud of Hillary Clinton tonight and I will support her in every way as one of the great leaders of all Democrats and all Americans.

Owen

11:44 PM  
Anonymous Infidel753 said...

Papamoka, you're ahead of the curve of most of your colleagues in at least recognizing that this is a real issue.

Unlike some, I believe Clinton is sincere in her support for Obama. But actually the phrase "Clinton supporters" is becoming something of a misnomer. This has never been about a personality cult or loyalty to one individual. There are bigger issues at stake.

We're not the ones who wrecked the party. It was the Obama crowd that did that. (I know you personally aren't like that, but frankly, you're unusual in this respect.) We need to take the party back and restore it to what it should be. That will never be possible if Obama wins in November and "vindicates" all that his supporters and the current party leadership have done.

I think you would agree that your picture of a McCain administration is exaggerated for rhetorical effect. More to the point, a heavily-Democratic Congress will contain his worst excesses. I believe it's a risk worth taking.

6:36 AM  
Blogger Ms.Crystal said...

It is generation thing. I am what I consider a strong 28 year old woman that is as progressive as the next, but I have supported Obama since day one. I am not old enough to have lived thru the Women's Movement and I take insult to older women telling me that I am ungrateful or just do not understand. I do not see the glass ceiling that my mother or grandmother saw. I do not think just because she has the same gender as I that she (Hillary) should be president. I say "yes it is time for a woman president but since rumors of her running a couple years ago, I have to say not that woman." I have got anything I want in this life by working hard and if I did not get it then I just didn't work hard enough. But playing the sexism card is not going to prove someone worthy.
I hate when people would be willing to throw their vote away over details. We need and want change in this world and how is having someone who brags of 35 years of service going to be change. It would be business as usual.

And last nights speech was no more than making sure she is set up for either 4 years from now or 8 years from now. She will most likely have her time but right now I do not think she is GROUNDED enough to do so.

6:16 PM  
Blogger Papamoka said...

Very well thought out opininion Ms. Crystal and I appreciate your opinion. I'm a die hard Obama and Biden supporter and I was trying to think how someone could ever convert me even remotely to even think of voting for John McCain if I were in fact a Hillary Clinton supporter... ROFLMFAO... Never going to happen.

I'm also looking hypothetically at someone jumping from a Hillary Clinton supporter as a parabel of someone changing their faith in the for instance of Jesus and then switching because Jesus is no longer available to serve at the local church or temple so you go satanic?

That is an opinion I would love to hear because I'm thinking that alot of this is media hype and not reality.

Thanks for the comment Ms. Crystal.

7:40 PM  
Anonymous HDeanvotedonthe04floor said...

I have voted Democratic in every national election since my first vote at 18 years old. I am now 30. I have believed in our candidates who have championed for our platform of equal rights for all people. I have believed in providing access to opportunities for people to elevate and improve their lives through education, service, and access to good jobs. Allowing our economy to grow for everyone, not just the multinational corporations at the expense of everyone else. Bridging the gaps that have left so many people in this country behind because of poverty, education, race, gender, and many other reasons not mentioned here. Providing healthcare to all Americans that covers and protects them rather than just leaving everyone to their own accord of buying essentially a healthcare discount card. Not allowing a single religious philosophy to be the basis of government decisions, actions, and legislation but rather being open to people of all faiths and beliefs to be a part of the party and its guiding principles. Being champions of minorities and women. Standing up to those who threatened our country but simultaneously being an active participant in fostering relations with other countries and providing assistance aid around the world not just in times of crisis but as part of an international philosophy to elevate the lives of those living in standards and conditions far below what we have been afforded in this country.

So, given my long oration of philosophies that I believe in ,and as a young voter am still evolving, it would make sense that I should be unquestionably casting my vote for the Democratic ticket this year. However, the actions exhibited by the nominee, his campaign, and the Democratic National Committee during the primary are simply disturbing to me. We had an historic primary that represented the great history of the Democratic party and could have shown a bright future for this party. Instead, from the beginning of this year, one single candidate was thrust into the nomination through misrepresentation of positions, manipulation, bias, strong arming of party leaders, disrespecting and insulting people who supported someone other than the nominee, and the active destruction of the record and reputation of the previous Democratic President and the nominee's Democratic opponent. Unfortunately, most people will chalk this up to pure politics. However, I am further disturbed that this party went to extreme lengths to minimize and marginalize the voters and the candidacy of Senator Hillary Clinton and thereby relegate the fundamental idea of representative democracy to less than a talking point.

The caucuses and caucus/primary two-step was a disgrace. The rules and bylaws committee meeting in May was an insult. And, the staged floor vote at the Democratic National Convention was a sham and mockery to the very democracy and rights of voters that the Democratic party claims to espouse to.

The Democratic leadership never wanted to put Senator Clinton's name into nomination even though she had earned nearly half the delegates and more primary votes than any Democrat in history. Astonishingly, it took two petitions from pledged delegates to both get a vote for Senator Clinton and to bring that vote to the floor of the national convention. In this last figurative moment of the 2008 Hillary Clinton for president campaign, she and the voters deserved to have the standard traditions and rules of the party followed as had been done in every previous convention. Watching Senator Clinton have all 18 million of her voters recognized, respected, and recorded on the floor of the national convention would have gone further towards healing wounds in the party than the staged mockery that was displayed. Unfortunately, staged "Party unity" was more important to the Democratic leadership than allowing the Democratic voters to be heard and respected on the convention floor.

It is unfortunate, but I will NOT be casting a vote for the Democratic ticket this year. It's not just a matter of how much I agree with our nominee's virtually untested philosophy but it also matters how he got to where he is, who he insulted, demeaned, and ostracized along the way, how many times he has changed positions (even to the detriment of our own platform) and how he manipulated the process and people to have himself thrust into the nomination that he did not earn in a fair or respectable way.

Unfortunately, my choice of not voting for the Democratic nominee leaves me with very little to choose from at the top of the ballot. Despite my choice to protest the democratic ticket, I cannot vote for the Republican ticket. I have watched and listened to the Republican party and even in their display of "country first," I still see strong fundamental differences between myself and their party philosophy. I expect to be voting "present" for this year's presidential election and I will instead support our down ballot Democrats to bring a Democratic voice into our local and state government.
I truly hope that my party, the Democratic Party, will learn some lessons from this year and re-evaluate the process, circumstances, bias, misrepresentation, and deviation from tradition that unfairly delivered the nomination to one candidate while simultaneously disrespecting that candidate's opponent, all Democratic voters, the 42nd president of the United States, and the party.

9:16 PM  
Blogger Papamoka said...

Well HDean? Hmm, copy and paste much? Give me a break will you?

9:26 PM  

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