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Wednesday, February 08, 2012

Thirty Nine Cent Bullet Theory


I'm of the honest opinion that if you live a life of evil then you should be judged and sentenced as evil. I am by far not a huge fan of the death penalty but I am not in favor of giving monsters that commit horrible crimes a free life trip to Club Med with all expenses paid! My brother from another mother and I are debating this between our blogs. I am friendly to the thirty nine cent bullet theory when it comes to true monsters in our society that commit despicable crimes against society. John Myste likes the happy pill, feed them, cloth them, treat them, and nurture them theory. Not I!

Take the Nazi's of WWII. I would take out a mortgage to pay that bullet bill. Dr. Joseph Mengele, the monster of Auschwitz, he liked twins to see whatever evil thought came into his mind and how it would effect them. Connecting veins together, organs together, spines together, and every other medical abomination the mind could conceive. Once the experiment ran the course he had no need for the surviving child and they too succumbed to his madness. He was evil, he needed to be stopped, nobody stopped him. He lived to a ripe old age in South America.

Mass murderers, serial killers and such we really don't need that appeal thingy that the courts always go through so the monster lives ten or twenty years after the death sentence. Give the judge a box of bullets and shoot them right then and their! "Bailiff, shoot him!" Your appeal is with your creator.

As a liberal I can honestly say that I have no problem buying the bullet or firing the shot to shoot someone that has raped or murdered any child. No PROBLEM AT ALL. But I am still a liberal. I just defend children first over the rights of monsters. Same goes for someone that rapes, beats and murders and elderly person. Send me the bill for the bullet. Same goes for someone that kills a police officer in the line of duty. Send me the bill. In my mind it is common sense to protect the weakest in our society and those that defend and protect our society from the monsters that have no conscious idea that what they are doing is wrong.

I don't come to this opinion easily. It is an ongoing opinion that could change but I do not see a snow balls chance in hell of that happening anytime soon. Does my opinion and hope for the thirty nine cent bullet theory have legs to stand on? Some say yes, some say no. I'm good to go with it. No CLUB MED for people that care not about their fellow human beings. Their soul was lost when they committed the crime. My bullet is just expediting the delivery for judgement before God.

*** PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM JUST BUYING THE BULLETS - SUPPLY AND DEMAND

*** PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT A GUN OWNER - FIRM BELIEVER IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT THOUGH

Papamoka

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Blogger John Myste said...

Once the experiment ran the course he had no need for the surviving child and they too succumbed to his madness.

Madness, as I understand things, is a dramatic form of mental illness. I am not sure I agree that those who are ill should be punished for being ill? Punishment will not cure them and they did not seek illness out, so far as we know, and even if they did, what do you expect from crazy people?

He was evil, he needed to be stopped, nobody stopped him.

I am a complete utilitarian and I totally agree that he should have been stopped. It sounds like we are basically twins.

As a liberal I can honestly say that I have no problem buying the bullet or firing the shot to shoot someone that has raped or murdered any child.

Were it legal, I would probably kill any such person I saw commit such an act, and I would not feel a bit bad about it. However, I would not say he deserved to die or that I should have killed him. I would only say that I wanted to and I am OK with my transgression. I would have NO PROBLEM AT ALL. It sounds like we are twins.

I just defend children first over the rights of monsters.

I do as well, even while I acknowledge that monsters are not in need of suffering because they are monsters. We are all what we are. If there were a perfectly good species, they would be horrified at the “evil” of even the noblest humans, and they would say we need to suffer. Your purported goodness does not justify torturing monsters, or anything else in nature. Conditions of being should not be punished. Only conditions of doing should have legally enforced consequences, and then only as a means of corrective action.

Same goes for someone that rapes, beats and murders and elderly person.

Yes, all the innocent demographics are included. We are not going to discriminate, such as to say that the murder of a 30 year old adult male is more forgivable then the murder of a two year old little girl. We are all people, and the 30 year old adult male is a whole one and just as valuable as the little girl.

In my mind it is common sense to protect the weakest in our society

It is common sense to protect everyone. No one suggested otherwise. We should be careful not to mix the concepts of retribution with the concepts of deterrence and prevention. Discussions about the justness of retribution should never be mixed with discussions about crime prevention. They are two totally separate questions and when we mix them, our perspective becomes muddled.

I don't come to this opinion easily.

I doubt that. It is the default opinion. It is the natural opinion. It is the emotional opinion one has before he deliberates more deeply.

So, you have addressed three topics. I will list them out.

1. Could you kill a murderer with no feelings of remorse yourself?
a. Papa says: Yes.
b. Myste says: Yes, my intellectual twin.
2. Should we “stop” murderers and not allow them to grow old in South America?
a. Papa says: Yes.
b. Myste says: Yes, unless they are already in South America, in which case we should lock them up there. Again, my intellectual twin.
3. Do murderers deserve to suffer? Should we cause them pain for the sake of causing them pain? Is this the right thing to do?
a. Papa Implies: Yes.
b. Myste says: If they are mentally ill by our definition of insanity, then no because they are mentally incompetent. Evil falls into this category. Else still no, because their suffering adds to the pain in the world for no reason, which is the crime they committed.

So, we mostly agree, except in the one area where Papa is mistaken.

11:17 PM  
Blogger Papamoka said...

Papa is mistaken? You must be on drugs or something John. If you are not then maybe we should consider some for you to be on. LOL!

I stand by my thoughts my brotha from anotha motha. I think somebody, you know who set us up. I will talk to that someone about their transgressions.

Oh, and on the twins thingy, that would have to have been the longest pregnancy ever recorded. I do believe that I am six years older than you. Do as Papa says. Go clean your room or something.

1:31 PM  
Blogger John Myste said...

I see the error of my ways, sir.

I am going to torture someone I think is deserving now. Actually, probably after I clean my room.

Can I torture a cat? There are two on my hit list, both evil, both worthy of torture, both acting in accordance with their personal nature and propensities, and both misguided.

2:05 PM  
Blogger John Myste said...

It has been a great duel, one like no other. After much bloodshed, I offer a ceasefire.

In the spirit of this offering, I responded to a Andorina who is the most likely unintentional instigator of this conflict. That response, where I declare that Papamoka is likely as correct in his ideas as John Myste is in his, and that the butterfly has us both beat, is at John Myste Responds.

I hope you will accept my terms and we can resume our regularly scheduled lives in the harmony we have come to expect and depend upon.

6:24 PM  
Blogger Tim McGaha said...

My only problem with capital punishment is this: what if you got the wrong guy? If someone is tried, sentenced, and imprisoned for a crime they didn't commit, some restitution can be made. If someone is tried, sentenced, and executed for a crime they didn't commit ... you can't restore life to a corpse.

Capital punishment is not very fault-tolerant. It demands a perfect ability to determine guilt that we just don't have. Invariably, we will execute innocent men. Is that acceptable collateral damage? I have a hard time agreeing with that.

9:00 AM  
Blogger Papamoka said...

I applaud you sir on the post that you originally wrote. It was intellectually stimulating. I care not for blogging duels as not one person survives unscathed and battered. As a political writer or just a writer I tend to have thin skin but damn good bone structure.

I will have to investigate this Andorina person you speak of. She sounds like your evil twin. We should be careful though. When battling of minds begin it is always best to be careful when your nemesis is close to your heart.

Talk later bro...

12:23 PM  
Blogger John Myste said...

Here is a puzzle:

Burr misspelled your name.

What does it mean?

12:26 PM  
Blogger Papamoka said...

Come on Burr... Papamoca??? LOL!

Tim, I agree with your thoughts on being unable to retrieve the death penalty. I may have failed to say that my 39 cent theory is for those we know to be pure evil such as Ted Bundy, Adolf Whatshisface, and such. My theory is only 39 cents so you get what you pay for. In all other instances I am confident in the long drawn out court system that we have in cases where some doubt can be argued.

2:10 PM  

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